#302 Yesterday, 07:37 AM
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Last night I woke up several times with this MM/ Sherrie subject in my mind. My angel said this in explanation about the astrological chart. It would be a human conclusion to believe an individual would replicate a birthchart. MM lived and recorded her life within the Oversoul. The information is already there. It would be redundent to record it twice.
The birthchart actually supports the idea she isn't MM, the idea being that another of the Oversoul group would be working with the same issues which wouldn't be a stretch to believe if Sherrie and MM are twin souls like twins that are mirror images of each other. My understanding is the South Node is a person's karma...where you have been, like the stupid saying been, there, done that. The North Node is your dharma, where you want to go, what you want to achieve. Having said all of this I had the brilliant idea to go to Amazon.com and read the reviews on the book. I will post a review but I will admit there was 13 reviews and out of 13, 11 were five stars. I chose the one review that I felt was less than satisfied. It just resonated with me.





Reviewer:Valerie J. Wood "(Author of Enforcer)" (Baltimore, MD) - See all my reviews
" This is an interesting read, but I'm certainly not convinced....I do happen to believe in past lives and reincarnation, and have had that interest for many years, having read many astounding books on the subject.


Add to that the fact I'm also a fairly knowledgeable fan of MM's (if having a collection of over 55 books which I've read, some several times, about Miss Monroe, her films and life, and a collection of MM items, some owned or worn by MM, which is pretty wide-range, qualifies). OK; so I'm an avid fan. She was a beautiful, fascinating woman and I've long been interested in her personality, thoughts and trying to figure out why she was and is so fascinating. In this book, some of the statements made and supposably 'confirmed' in the past life regression transcripts just don't quite ring true to my inquisitive mind. Little details, but telling. There's nothing in here that a biography of Miss Monroe's cannot provide as fodder for the regressions, and the main outside source, claimed by the author as confirming that Sherrie and Marilyn are one and the same (Ted Jordan) is hardly one of the most highly-regarded Marilyn Monroe confidants.



I do feel that perhaps the regressionist actually believes the subject's statements and perhaps she (the subject, Sherrie) believes them, as well.


Problem is that it's just way too easy to simulate and imitate MM's interests and, to cite one example, the oft-repeated inferance that popping pills and champagne together is a 'hit' as to accuracy of MM's reincarnation....well, I am not convinced.



This book is an interesting read, but definitely take it with a grain of salt, as they say. If Sherrie is 'channelling' Marilyn (which is denied in the book), well, there are still some problems with the information as presented under the transcripts of the regressions. Like giving the wrong name of the character Marilyn Monroe played in Millionaire; wrong age at making of River of No Return, etc. This book reads more like a mean possession than a reincarnation. Also there is noticably a lot of 'leading the witness' in the transcripts. Additionally, it is troubling that the writer attempts to justify not being able to regress Sherrie's daughter, who they claim is a reincarnation of Gladys Baker (Norma Jean's mother) because she was 'crazy.'






Photographs show some similarities between Sherrie (the subject) and Marilyn's features, but frankly a lot of women over the years have worked to emulate Marilyn's look. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between Marilyn's photos and those of Sherrie's which sometimes look staged to emulate her. The similarities were interesting but not all that remarkable and hardly conclusive. If you look at photographs of actress Poppy Montgomery--well, there you will see a definite resemblance. And, a lot of type is spent in this book claiming that biometrics allow for one to reincarnate looking quite similar to a past life. Hmmmm. With some of us, it takes a little help from Miss Clairol, as well.









I gave this book a rating of 3 stars for 'average.' Perhaps I was too kind in some respects. I got the distinct feeling that the reincarnate Sherrie did not care much for Marilyn. There was a lot of focus on MM versus the individual, Norma Jean, as well, which I wondered at. At times there is a tone of hysteria which is probably supposed to emulate MM's mindset. It gets a little overblown at times.






Of course, this reincarnation claim also then contradicts statements by such well-known psychics as Sylvia Browne, who has stated in one of her books that she made contact with Marilyn's spirit at her (MM's) home in Brentwood...must be a little hard to speak to a spirit in one place if she's already reincarnated in Scotland (no less!), in order to move to Canada...."



I am not going to read the book because I am just not into movie stars and MM. To choose a seedy, dysfunctional, self absorbed movie star to demonstrate to the world that reincarnation is a truth makes me almost laugh, after all, this is America where Dancing with the Stars is the number one TV show. It just reinforces to me how humans can take a MM or an Elvis and create a religion around them. My interest was mainly in the oversoul concept as a possible reason for two people to have past life recall to one individual. Adrian's book is doing well judging from the Amazon info so no worries, Adrian. Sex sells.
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#303 Yesterday, 07:58 AM
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Brianstalin, I am muddying the water again. What is your take on Poppy Montgomery?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_Montgomery








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#304 Yesterday, 09:15 AM
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Poppy Montgomery








Well, if you're talking about past lives, I got a connection to Princess Viktoria Luise of Prussia, the grandmother of Queen Sofía of Spain.

Poppy does look a bit like MM after her plastic surgeries, but there is no direct past life connection.





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#305 Yesterday, 11:07 AM
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Hi,

At this moment I realize that it is futile to continue to expose Sherrie, a beautiful pure soul, and me, to the ignorant or biased and unfair abuse and negativity of some members of this encounter group. Only the negative possibilities are expressed by these members. Unlike Sherrie and I, these members are like denying that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, and make it into a loop. It is like instead of touching the ear closer to one's hand, one is touching the other one far out...It is like saying when it is light that it is dark. It is like saying it is a chicken, though it walks like a duck, it quaks like a duck and it looks like a duck. What is the motif you guys that you act like that? Is it fear, envy, jealousy, hatred or just plain stubbornness? Unless there is a change in this unbalanced behaviour by these members, I'll stop posting and Sherrie will probably too. I advise her to stop posting too. But surely she will decide for herself. We'll stick by fair and open-minded people. After all, for those who believe (that Sherrie Lea Laird IS the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe) no explanation is necessary, and for those who do not, no explanation is possible. (They would not even read the book, which presents compelling facts.)

God bless you all,

Adrian


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#306 Yesterday, 11:46 AM
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How?



How do you intend to prove to the world that Sherrie is the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe?
















#307 Yesterday, 12:06 PM
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Teaching









If I wanted to prove the superiority of my psychic vision over yours, I would not seek any confirmation from other people or try to find "experts" to back up my claims. That belongs to basic training.

The only way forward is to teach others how to see past lives for themselves.

This requires teaching people methods of opening their third eyes.

This goes way beyond the limitations of hypnotherapy.













#308 Yesterday, 12:21 PM
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Masters






As patients or clients we are limited and depend solely upon the good will of our healers and teachers. As skilled practioners of Kundalini awakening, we can become masters of our own destinies. We can instantly obtain any knowledge that we may require regarding any of our own past lives, or the past lives of others.


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#309 Yesterday, 01:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
How do you intend to prove to the world that Sherrie is the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe?














Sherrie and I know that our book: "Marilyn Monroe Returns: The Healing of a Soul," is our main messenger to the world, for those with an open heart and mind--for those with open ears to hear and open eyes to see.


#310 Yesterday, 01:26 PM
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Faith




With open third eyes, we do not need to take any messengers on faith. We see truth without needing to be directed by others towards it (or becoming the victims of those seeking to deflect us away from it).


















#311 Yesterday, 02:20 PM
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Rigid dogmas, "scientific" (past-life regression misinterpretation and misapplication,) or "spiritual" (misinterpretation and misapplication, third eye, kundalini, pendulum, etc.,) limit us, block us and separate us from God, THE-ALL-KNOWER. How can we cleave to IT to get our correct answers? I submit that Godless pursuits are on the dark side and doomed to failure. I wholeheartedly have faith in GOD and I'm sure SHE/HE will answer for me and the whole world, as we are ONE. And the answer usually comes not from hypnotic past-life regressions, third eye, Kundalini or pendulum, that are just agencies, through which the Principle of Perfection of God manifests. Let’s keep them as conduits and not make them into blocks, and shoot ourselves in the foot so to speak! Besides, INFINITE IS THE NUMBER OF GOD'S WAYS. With our limited intelligence, we may not grasp the secrets of the universe, or think we do. The prominent American surgeon, LaPlace said: "What we know is little; what we don't know is immense." (Divinely inspired.) But, by faith in GOD, we align ourselves with ITS INFINITE INTELLIGENCE, with ITS WAYS, no matter what agency we use. We must always remember, that the agencies we use have value, for sure, only when used as a REAL conduit through which GOD's Principle of Perfection works.
















#312 Yesterday, 02:40 PM
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Adrian,

If seeking the truth is a Godless pursuit then by all means consider me dark and Godless. Whatever you think, I only am curious how two people can access one soul's past life. That is it. You have a book to sell and the bottom line is the intimate information that Sherrie revealed to you under hypnosis is being used by you to sell a book. There is no mystery to that and it is pretty much the same exploitation that MM had happen to her throughout her life. If you go on CNN Showbiz today and promote a spiritual book on reincarnation, who between me and you is dark and Godless. I have no agenda but to know the truth. You need for Sherrie to be MM so all of the tantilizing pillow talk of JFK and whoever she bedded that you uncovered can be percieved as credible. It works for people that buy and read People magazine and the Enquirer. It is of no interest to me.
I cannot believe you think that that you can spin love and light and a valentine to the world from such a pathetic disturbed person and think no one would challenge it. Her healing maybe should have been done in privacy and confidentliality. Who is remiss in the protection of Sherrie? Me because I ask hard questions or you who has a book to sell? I would expect ou to not hang around and answer what might require your total honesty. A long time ago a psychic told me "Leslie, in this life it will be the intent, the motive behind the act that you will need to work on." I challenge you with the same.
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#313 Yesterday, 02:52 PM
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Relative Truths







Greetings!


After carefully following this and other threads on the subject, it seems to me -- just a friendly suggestion -- that Adrian, Sherrie, Brianstalin and anyone who finds her/himself very passionate about something would benefit from searching for the root answers to questions like these:

- Why is it so important to you that people accept the Sherrie/Marilyn
connection (or whatever you feel very passionate about) the way you see
it?

- What feels to be out of order and bothersome when people present a
different viewpoint on this subject?

- Considering that one's understanding of something is simply a relative
truth, what makes other perspectives on it less valid?


Sticking to a particular point of view (relative truth) without finding a way to see another viewpoint, which seemingly opposes the former, from a perspective where the two complement each other is not really productive except for reaffirming the ego. This new perspective is one step closer to the truth.

There are many ways to view what we call reincarnation, and the more flexible we are in our attempts to make sense of this phenomenon the less anchored we will be in the concept itself, which will help us grow toward truth.

The Sufis, for example, look at "past-life" impressions as just that: impressions. According to them, when a chunk of Divine Consciousness (soul) takes on a relative distinctness it vibrates slower and slower and, as it were, "descends" through the planes, taking-on some portion of the attributes of each plane.

When it encounters the plane of Mind and the impressions dumped there by the souls returning to their Source (these impressions cannot be carried "higher" than their own level of vibration and are released by the returning soul), the "descending" soul takes them on as well, and these impressions, accreted to the being according to the laws of attraction, help form the sense of a separate identity, like dust settling on a mirror.

The substance (Essence) of the soul is initially "impressed" by its creation/Creator with a certain purpose and with an affinity for certain qualities. Each soul has a unique trajectory both from Unity and in returning to Unity. This is held to be true even down to the manifestation of the physical body and the tendencies of the personality and the personal ego.

The important thing here is that through this process of accumulating and later releasing these impressions/identifications/experiences the soul comes to apprehend its own deep substance, its Essence. In other words, the very elements that form the structure (ego) which binds us in ignorance of who we really are, present the tools which we can use in order to get to the truth. Suppressed/subconscious memories, "past-life" impressions, all our needs and wants, everything we like and dislike, etc. -- are clues into who/what we truly are and, if carefully, honestly and diligently followed and truly understood -- seen for what they are, clear of the filters/veils of the ego -- can lead us to awakening. Here, on this plane, as human incarnations, we have the precious opportunity to dedicate every moment to this task and are given the most tools, compared to all other planes, to accomplish it.

Just another point of view.

Best wishes to all,
Tomina
















#314 Yesterday, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oil painter
Adrian,

If seeking the truth is a Godless pursuit then by all means consider me dark and Godless. Whatever you think, I only am curious how two people can access one soul's past life. That is it. You have a book to sell and the bottom line is the intimate information that Sherrie revealed to you under hypnosis is being used by you to sell a book. There is no mystery to that and it is pretty much the same exploitation that MM had happen to her throughout her life. If you go on CNN Showbiz today and promote a spiritual book on reincarnation, who between me and you is dark and Godless. I have no agenda but to know the truth. You need for Sherrie to be MM so all of the tantilizing pillow talk of JFK and whoever she bedded that you uncovered can be percieved as credible. It works for people that buy and read People magazine and the Enquirer. It is of no interest to me.
I cannot believe you think that that you can spin love and light and a valentine to the world from such a pathetic disturbed person and think no one would challenge it. Her healing maybe should have been done in privacy and confidentliality. Who is remiss in the protection of Sherrie? Me because I ask hard questions or you who has a book to sell? I would expect ou to not hang around and answer what might require your total honesty. A long time ago a psychic told me "Leslie, in this life it will be the intent, the motive behind the act that you will need to work on." I challenge you with the same.
OP



I'm not going to repeat myself. I explained in previous posts what are Sherrie's and my true intentions, including the book's purpose. You choose to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to that, and still, with your mind made, continue your mud- slinging. I'm not sure it is part of Dharma, or Light.

Therefore, I'm not going to continue to defend Sherrie and me against destructive, not constructive criticism, as it doesn't seem to penetrate.

















#315 Yesterday, 04:29 PM
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Adrian,

Why can't you get this through your head. I am not expecting you to defend Sherrie. I am open to Sherrie being Marilyn. I am also open to Szuszu being Marilyn and open to Brian's friend being Marilyn. I am curious how several souls can access one soul's lifetime. Okay? Whether Sherrie is MM or not makes not one bit of difference. Brianstalin and I both repeatedly have gotten a No as to Sherrie being Marilyn. Okay, why? I believe you had hypnosis with Sherrie and I believe she gave you MM oriented information.
Can Szuszu also make that same claim? Yes. So? How is that possible. No-one is slinging anything. It is seeking of the truth, Adrian, not your truth or my truth, but the truth. We can all contribute to the search. You are the only one that would have something to fear from the truth. Your book is selling, what are you worried about?
OP

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#316 Yesterday, 04:31 PM
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Tomina,

Welcome to this discussion. Another viewpoint is welcome.
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#317 Yesterday, 04:52 PM
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I was doing a search for info on the oversoul and lo and behold our fellow member ElleRaNa has a wonderful explanation on her website...



"The oversoul, as one unit, downloads and uploads information to, from and between its counterparts and aspects - all with the same intent. So, as an individual person you will have your own memory of your lifetimes and you may also recall lifetimes shared by the collective memory of your oversoul. Sometimes an individual may believe they are somebody in the "past" or "future" when they are sharing in the collective oversoul memory. One aspect or counterpart of yourself is experiencing it, but you may not be focusing on the same lifetime as that aspect or counterpart."



Okay Adrian, this is what I am trying to understand.



http://www.vibrani.com/oversoul.htm

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#318 Yesterday, 04:56 PM
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More from ElleRaNa:


"Therefore, you will have some differences in what you recall. In this sense, there is the perception that three individuals were Cleopatra, for example. A more precise explanation is that one member of the oversoul lived that life individually and shared the experience with the others, so they all felt they were part of it. What's even more amazing is that since everything is energy/consciousness, we share all of our lives with everything and everyone. Therefore, since energy does not die, anything can be accessed."


"If we decide to make more of a conscious connection to our aspects and counterparts, our oversoul, we must be ready for the major issues that will no doubt be exposed in order to work through any unresolved residue we may have that needs confronting and healing. Do not attempt to do this and think it's a piece of cake: very often, it's not. It is a life-changing experience."
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#319 Yesterday, 06:07 PM
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Kundalini







Quote:

Rigid dogmas, "scientific" (past-life regression misinterpretation and misapplication,) or "spiritual" (misinterpretation and misapplication, third eye, kundalini, pendulum, etc.,) limit us, block us and separate us from God, THE-ALL-KNOWER. How can we cleave to IT to get our correct answers? I submit that Godless pursuits are on the dark side and doomed to failure. I wholeheartedly have faith in GOD and I'm sure SHE/HE will answer for me and the whole world, as we are ONE. And the answer usually comes not from hypnotic past-life regressions, third eye, Kundalini or pendulum, that are just agencies, through which the Principle of Perfection of God manifests. Let’s keep them as conduits and not make them into blocks, and shoot ourselves in the foot so to speak! Besides, INFINITE IS THE NUMBER OF GOD'S WAYS. With our limited intelligence, we may not grasp the secrets of the universe, or think we do. The prominent American surgeon, LaPlace said: "What we know is little; what we don't know is immense." (Divinely inspired.) But, by faith in GOD, we align ourselves with ITS INFINITE INTELLIGENCE, with ITS WAYS, no matter what agency we use. We must always remember, that the agencies we use have value, for sure, only when used as a REAL conduit through which GOD's Principle of Perfection works.


















#320 Yesterday, 06:25 PM
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Alternatives







Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomina


Greetings!




After carefully following this and other threads on the subject, it seems to me -- just a friendly suggestion -- that Adrian, Sherrie, Brianstalin and anyone who finds her/himself very passionate about something would benefit from searching for the root answers to questions like these:

- Why is it so important to you that people accept the Sherrie/Marilyn
connection (or whatever you feel very passionate about) the way you see
it?

- What feels to be out of order and bothersome when people present a
different viewpoint on this subject?

- Considering that one's understanding of something is simply a relative
truth, what makes other perspectives on it less valid?


Sticking to a particular point of view (relative truth) without finding a way to see another viewpoint, which seemingly opposes the former, from a perspective where the two complement each other is not really productive except for reaffirming the ego. This new perspective is one step closer to the truth.

There are many ways to view what we call reincarnation, and the more flexible we are in our attempts to make sense of this phenomenon the less anchored we will be in the concept itself, which will help us grow toward truth.

The Sufis, for example, look at "past-life" impressions as just that: impressions. According to them, when a chunk of Divine Consciousness (soul) takes on a relative distinctness it vibrates slower and slower and, as it were, "descends" through the planes, taking-on some portion of the attributes of each plane.

When it encounters the plane of Mind and the impressions dumped there by the souls returning to their Source (these impressions cannot be carried "higher" than their own level of vibration and are released by the returning soul), the "descending" soul takes them on as well, and these impressions, accreted to the being according to the laws of attraction, help form the sense of a separate identity, like dust settling on a mirror.

The substance (Essence) of the soul is initially "impressed" by its creation/Creator with a certain purpose and with an affinity for certain qualities. Each soul has a unique trajectory both from Unity and in returning to Unity. This is held to be true even down to the manifestation of the physical body and the tendencies of the personality and the
personal ego.

The important thing here is that through this process of accumulating and later releasing these impressions/identifications/experiences the soul comes to apprehend its own deep substance, its Essence. In other words, the very elements that form the structure (ego) which binds us in ignorance of who we really are, present the tools which we can use in order to get to the truth. Suppressed/subconscious memories, "past-life" impressions, all our needs and wants, everything we like and dislike, etc. -- are clues into who/what we truly are and, if carefully, honestly and diligently followed and truly understood -- seen for what they are, clear of the filters/veils of the ego -- can lead us to awakening. Here, on this plane, as human incarnations, we have the precious opportunity to dedicate every moment to this task and are given the most tools, compared to all other planes, to accomplish it.

Just another point of view.

Best wishes to all,
Tomina











Hi Tomina,

I'm pretty sure past lives are illusions. As for reincarnation, I choose to work with it, because of its healing benefits. I do not have to be limited by belief systems. I do not require other people to believe in things. I do not require people to open their third eyes. I'm presenting alternative information that may or may not be correct and I also mention certain processes that enable us to work with higher objective truth. The Akashic Records are there and can be read by everyone. If we want to cling to any subjectivity, they cannot be read accurately.

I believe there are many ways to interpret the data from the Sherrie/Marilyn case.

















#321 Yesterday, 01:39 AM
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Brianstalin,
I need not your contradictory fiction.













#322 Yesterday, 01:58 AM
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Soul Groups Vs Oversoul







Quote:
Originally Posted by oil painter
"If we decide to make more of a conscious connection to our aspects and counterparts, our oversoul, we must be ready for the major issues that will no doubt be exposed in order to work through any unresolved residue we may have that needs confronting and healing. Do not attempt to do this and think it's a piece of cake: very often, it's not. It is a life-changing experience."



I, personally, do not believe in the oversoul, unless we mean the unifying God force. I do know that we are drawn to the dominant personalities within our soul groups, we can identify with them and claim their past incarnations as our own.
I know this from personal experience. I also know that even skilled past life experts can come unstuck because of this, but only TEMPORARILY. In some incarnations we were the dominant figures of the soul group and others can, similarly, identify with our own past lives. Other members of our soul group can be thought of as our counterparts. As we progress, we are able to move into increasingly higher soul groups and leave others behind.


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#323 Yesterday, 02:03 AM
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Prayer




Quote:
Originally Posted by bloom




Brianstalin,
I need not your contradictory fiction.




When I pray to God and tell him the same thing. He just smiles.













#324 Yesterday, 02:21 AM
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You are a creator of delusions.








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#325 Yesterday, 02:31 AM
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Delusion



We create our own delusions. Others cannot do that for us.




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#326 Yesterday, 02:34 AM
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Oooooooo!



Quote:
Originally Posted by bloom
You are a creator of delusions.



This is why I am staying out of this.
Still this is quite interesting. I just sit back, and watch all these wheels spinning, and you know what?
I simply believe Sheerie at her word. Because she came here and had the guts to say so!
I know who I am. I do not have to prove it.











#327 Yesterday, 03:41 AM
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And Now.....



The Brutal Reality, as I see it, and as it has been from the very beginning.
This is the type of controversy which sells books.
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#328 Yesterday, 02:08 PM
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Brianstalin,

The quote you used was from ElleRaNa's article and not my words. You write that you don't believe in the Oversoul and go on to talk about soul groups. You then proceed to rephrase the description of an oversoul, call it a soul group and it is the very thing I have been trying to understand and have been asking you about. I ask you again.....without betraying your friend's privacy, you have mentioned that you know who the real MM is and say it is a sister of your friend. Can you describe her? Is she obsessed with MM? Does she look like her? Has she altered herself to look like her?
Why do you think it is her other than the pendulum? When people alter their appearance with plastic surgery then how can you even rely on photos or physical characteristics as proof of anything? Please answer the questions about who and why you think MM is.
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#329 Yesterday, 02:35 PM
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Illusions









Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
I'm pretty sure past lives are illusions.


Explain. This almost says that life is illusion, which it mainly is. On the other hand if I pinch myself...I do know that I AM Often illusions are illusions....:-)

Peace be with you fellow-wanderers.
And please be tolerant of each other’s stage of his/her journey.

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#330 Today, 02:02 AM
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Quote by B.S "With open third eyes, we do not need to take any messengers on faith. We see truth without needing to be directed by others towards it (or becoming the victims of those seeking to deflect us away from it)."

interesting. Trace all the things you've said and done towards my case per se....you infact are making it a big deal not us.
See the thing is, while you go to bat for someone who 'regressed' or so they said for 10 minutes, I on the other hand regressed, as a young sherrie, teen, child and birth, then I regressed on my minds eye and intimate details of being both norma jeane and marilyn, at birth, 6, 9, 16, 17, 19, 21, 27, 29, 31, 35 and ultimately the excruciating death at 36. by my own undoing... it was something I could not predict to feel, or expect nor imagine, and contrary to Suzanna's it was not fun, I said Kezia was Gladys and that our live was one of pain but we were here to mend, YOU yourself verified that. in which I said case closed, I brought you little old 'nobody' Gladys. and handed over the baton to Susanna the superimposer. Well, should I say she isn't.
to suit you I should Lie.... so in the meantime while the book was edited down to a third of it's size, and 10 percent of 50 gruelling hours of regressions on tape, 1000, question and I was never wrong, only the information on books were erroneous once or twice I said something along the lines of Clash of the titans, when I was struggling to say clash by night, WHiCH I CORRECTED as I would never pay attention to the next question when my mind was reeling to correct something it thought was wrong.

That lady who wrote that review happens to be none other than a former hater at the mmforum. once again my dad's cop advice comes into play. CONSIDER THE SOURCE.

it's silly, it's boring it's ridiculous, the book was edited down to a 1/3 of all the work doc and I did, it was also not easy to keep track of small errors that the editor did as I refused to edit it as I could not relive any more of this stuff for the time being.

one of them being, that it was BOBBY who wanted to get Fidel and they wrote that I said it was Jack.


SEE PEOPLE. you are forgetting a piece of the puzzle a very important one.

I don't study Marilyn Monroe, I'd have to study books and movies inorder to answer those questions.
On tv,thru hypnosis alone, you can erase someone's spider fears so that they are now able to pet and nuzzle a spider.
Imagine studying for a calculus examine but before you go in the Doctor erases all your knowledge of numbers. What do you think will happen, Pass with flying colors?

You know the answer and so do I. BUt guess what my wacky and wonderfully obsessed in the wrong direction friends. I Did. that's right I passed with FLYING IMPOSSIBLY accurate colors. And lots of people are writing emails to us with RAVE reviews of the book, even people from Danamo's site, and they all ask that I don't tell the others. which I never do.

See. grab the one that was written by a hater and as usual all the information they put will be wrong.

Sorry I didn't impose the pics on my head, or study up to make sure I got the things wrong oh. by the way, I said bobby was 2 years younger and right after I came out of an 8 hour day of trances I immediately wanted that corrected, however Sherrie Laird doesn't have a clue how old Bobby Kennedy is. Sorry thats just the way the cookie crumbles. too busy living the life I have now and you all can believe and stay stuck in the mud for as long as you so solemnly choose tata


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#331 Today, 02:08 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
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"The Brutal Reality, as I see it, and as it has been from the very beginning.
This is the type of controversy which sells books."

I hate to pick on you the most Osiris. Not only do I not care about our 7.99 to 20.00 book that the publisher 85 or more percent owns.

But knowledge is like opening a window for a breath of fresh air. How can that be wrong. We are not on Oprah with a book full of Lies. that SHE rampantly added to her fav list and shoved down her herd of sheep audience.

It's crap that you or anyone would focus on that in a REINCARNATION FORUM

HELLO.. REincarnation anyone








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#332 Today, 02:10 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
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and then we swung the pendulum to see if we should operate on his brain or was it actually infact, hemorroids.
Ooops
whatever.
Does any other reincarnate go thru this.
Looks like I have to go thru more,
and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
so thanks for that, all.
appreciate it













#333 Today, 02:36 AM
brianstalin
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Illusion











Quote:
Originally Posted by janus212
Explain. This almost says that life is illusion, which it mainly is.
On the other hand if I pinch myself...I do know that I AM
Often illusions are illusions....:-)





When we pinch ourselves in a dream we know that WE ARE - until we wake up.

We do no wake up without the arousal of Kundalini power.









#334 Today, 03:03 AM











brianstalin
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Bogart









Quote:
Originally Posted by oil painter
Brianstalin,

The quote you used was from ElleRaNa's article and not my words. You write that you don't believe in the Oversoul and go on to talk about soul groups. You then proceed to rephrase the description of an oversoul, call it a soul group and it is the very thing I have been trying to understand and have been asking you about. I ask you again.....without betraying your friend's privacy, you have mentioned that you know who the real MM is and say it is a sister of your friend. Can you describe her? Is she obsessed with MM? Does she look like her? Has she altered herself to look like her?
Why do you think it is her other than the pendulum? When people alter their appearance with plastic surgery then how can you even rely on photos or physical characteristics as proof of anything? Please answer the questions about who and why you think MM is.
OP








A friend of mine is apparently Humphrey Bogart reincarnated. He is addicted to cigarettes and has a hard time giving them up. His favorite movie is "The African Queen". He doesn't let the possibility of being Bogie go to his head. He couldn't care less.

Truly, I suggested to him to that he could be regressed and use the notoriety for personal gain.
He just smiled. I think he had had a guts full of that (fame & fortune) in his previous life. He didn't seem at all interested in my proposal.




Reincarnation really isn't such a big deal for some people.


HEALING is.



As for my Marilyn, her past life amnesia is complete and to her Marilyn is just a movie star.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart







#335 Today, 03:14 AM
brianstalin
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Egypt & Trafalgar













Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
Well, something strange happened to me today. It started yesterday when I was doing Kung Fu training with my friend Simon (my Reiki master is also a kung fu master and Simon is a close friend of his).
Simon and I paired off and I kept getting flashbacks of a life in Macedonia with Alexander the Great. We were in a court yard training with swords and long pikes or lances.
I saw Simon today and interrupted his lunch by asking him to engage in an experiment. I held a crystal in each hand and instructed Simon to get his brain into the theta range (a technique our Reiki master has taught us). I instructed him to go to the court of Alexander the Great and tell me if he had lived at that time in history and if he had known Alexander. Simon thought about it for a while and said yes he had been there - he had a surprised look on his face. I then asked him to tell me something about his interaction with Alexander.
Simon said he saw himself, Alexander and me drinking wine together.
I asked Simon to see what we had done together at that time besides drinking wine and was very excited when he said we had trained together with swords. I started to walk away feeling very pleased with my experiment when Simon asked me what those long poles carried by guys on horseback were called. I had been going on the assumption that Simon had been the reincarnation of Ptolemy I. I mentioned somewhere else that after another conversation with Simon about boat building I had got the idea he had been Admiral Nelson. There's no way I can be sure. This experience was a lot more interesting than working with pendulums and blank sheets of paper. I kid you not these events happened last night and today and Simon didn't have a clue what was going on. Well, that's my Egyptian story. My Reiki master wasn't too impressed, though - he said he had done things like that years ago and was now more interested in other planets and dimensions - he keeps telling me to go back in time before Atlantis, but I keep saying I don't feel confident because of the lack of reference points.





Posted previously in another thread.






#336 Today, 03:21 AM
bloom
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So, your friends don't remember who you told them they were. Interesting.











#337 Today, 03:24 AM
brianstalin
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Apparently Ptolemy I became Lord Nelson and Lord Nelson became Humphrey Bogart and Bogart became Simon.

If we look to our own past lives, we may find surprising things.

Have each of us changed history to significant degrees?

When they tell us that we are co-creators of our reality, is this what they mean?

UFO contactees have been told similar stories about past lives and our personal planetary responsiblities.












#338 Today, 03:34 AM
bloom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oil painter
I am open to Sherrie being Marilyn. I am also open to Szuszu being Marilyn and open to Brian's friend being Marilyn. I am curious how several souls can access one soul's lifetime.



Only one of them had soul access to the lifetime of Marilyn Monroe.
Sherrie Lea Laird.











#339 Today, 03:35 AM
brianstalin
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Guidance









Quote:
Originally Posted by bloom
So, your friends don't remember who you told them they were.
Interesting.





I was talking about Marilyn.

Simon has been taught how to work with his higher guidance. He doesn't take what I say on faith. He is a very close friend of my Reiki Master's.
My Reiki master has confirmed Simon's past lives.

"Well, that's what my guides tell me". This is a common phrase that my Reiki Master uses.

It doesn't mean reincarnation is real, it just implies that my Reiki Master's guides believe in all of that stuff. These guides are only here to help us heal ourselves.

There are other spirits roaming around proclaiming to be Spiritual Masters. Just like some people. These spirits are keen to find channelers to spread their messages.










#340 Today, 03:46 AM
bloom
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Quote:
Truly, I suggested to him to that he could be regressed...



Why did you suggest regression to him?



bloom











#341 Yesterday, 08:46 PM
brianstalin
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Processing Information







Quote:
Originally Posted by bloom
Only one of them had soul access to the lifetime of Marilyn Monroe.
Sherrie Lea Laird.





Wasn't Sherrie the daughter of one of Marilyn's incarnations in Russia?

There is conflicting information.

How can we prove which information is correct or incorrect?

We may think we know the answer, but human beings tend to be biased in their thinking and prone to error. All of us.

Perhaps the universal arousal of Kundalini power would help us and we can all ascend in 2012. A curious by-product of our curiosity about past lives.
A curiosity about things that are essentially unreal illusions.










#342 Yesterday, 08:54 PM
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Curiosity











Quote:
Originally Posted by bloom





Curiosity. Curious to see his reaction. He was very Humphrey Bogartish in his reaction to my suggestion. He just continued talking about his passion for boat building and lit another cigarette.

Are we curious about truth?













#343 Yesterday, 09:07 PM
bloom
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Quote:








Originally Posted by brianstalin

Are we curious about truth?





Quote:
It doesn't mean reincarnation is real, it just implies that my Reiki Master's guides believe in all of that stuff.





Quote:
Truly, I suggested to him to that he could be regressed and use the notoriety for personal gain.














#344 Yesterday, 11:01 PM
brianstalin
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Gandhi Quotes









A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble.

Honest differences are often a healthy sign of progress.

Truth alone will endure; all the rest will be swept away before the tide of time.

Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there, and to be guided by truth as one sees it. But no one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of the truth.

Truth never damages a cause that is just.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall - think of it, always.

Hope is eternal - Its worship never goes in vain.

Speak only if it improves upon the silence.

Use truth as your anvil, nonviolence as your hammer and anything that does not stand the test when it is brought to the anvil of truth and hammered with nonviolence, reject it.

Even If I am a minority of one, truth is still the truth.



http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mohandas_Gandhi






#345 Today, 12:14 AM
bloom
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Do you consider regression an interesting or useful challenge to your readings? Do you consider it as a way to check your readings?










#346 Today, 01:33 AM
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Checking







Quote:
Originally Posted by bloom
Do you consider regression an interesting or useful challenge to
your readings? Do you consider it as a way to check your readings?






Yes, I do. My own experience with hypnosis has given me cause to doubt its ability to help us see things without our subconscious minds inserting screen memories. My pendulum teacher seemed to think that hypnosis isn't very reliable for checking the past life information that we can obtain using more objective methods.

We all have blockages and Reiki is very effective for removing congested energy. Without congested energy in our chakra systems, we see things more clearly.

Trance channeling leaves us relying on the abilities of the channeled entity. Entities, just like people, can be biased and prone to mistakes.













#347 Today, 01:51 AM
brianstalin
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Testing




It's important to test all information. I suggest that people can test the information that I have provided. If they have the ability to do so, I am confident that they will see the truth for themselves. If they see that Sherrie is Marilyn returned, based on their individual experience then that's fine by me.

I feel confident that Sherrie is not the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe.
Common sense tells us that it's just too good to be true.

Didn't hypnosis and astrology confirm Szuszanna's claims? Sherrie seems threatened by this.

We need surer methods to get to see the Akashic records. Edgar Cayce told us to do this successfully, we need to lay aside personality and self-interest.

Can Adrian tell us who President James Buchanan is now using his methods?
















#348 Today, 05:58 AM
oil painter
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Brianstalin,

I had a feeling you would say that your friend that is Marilyn had amnesia about it. It makes more sense to me. In my opinion we are here to make progress and logic would tell me after a life like MM had it would not make sense to recreate the same condition if looking at it from a higher perspective. I can see why people that want to exploit intimate knowledge gained through hypnosis would promote that idea but it would be to me a very human/ego reaction. In our society today people feed off of star gossip. I can understand someone accessing explosive information with hypnosis and greed/self interest override your sense of decency. I was stunned when Sherrie said she had been under for eight hours in hypnosis.
Even workers at Walmart get bathroom breaks. You told me the Akashic Records indicated that Eddie was Renoir. Eddie has the same reaction your MM friend has. For a long time he didn't even consider it but the personality that I am I keep gently nudging. Recently he opened up to me that he loved to paint landscapes when he was in art class but stopped because the teacher frowned on it. Everything back then was geared for abstract, contemporary expressions, and in disgust he quit painting. Just recently I saw a painting he did that is hanging in his brother's office and it was uncanny how he handled the background. The color choice and application was pure Renoir. I was so excited but he still won't really discuss it. The only enthusiasm I have gotten out of him is when we attended an art exhibition last week called Monet in Normandy and he was very excited, but still low key. I have gotten him to promise to do some plein air paintings with me. When you told me I was Suzanne I felt no connection to her. It wasn't until I read a bio done based on people that actually knew her I realized that my memories were actually tied to an actual person. It is very unnerving to look at her pictures and it is not a pleasing experience. I am glad that life is over and I could start fresh. I have repeated some mistakes but for the most part I have made remarkable progress and I am definitely a better painter....of course that could be because of better materials. You do the best you can with what ou have. You helped me out at a time when I really needed a break and I will always thank you for that.
OP
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#349 Today, 07:31 AM
oil painter
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Here is my last thought on this whole MM thing. I read Sherrie's posts and it struck me as less of a healing and more like an interrogation. Keeping someone under for such a long time repeatedly and hammering away at them over details like ages and who is out to get who leaves the impression that someone is mining for information. My feeling out of this whole twisted scenerio is that once again MM has been exploited. Using the idea that it is a "gift" to the world is a way of justifying a self serving act. I am not sure anyone was "healed" after reading Sherrie's posts. Call it anyway you want to but I see an emperor standing naked as a jaybird.

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#351 Yesterday, 05:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
By kabbalistic numerology, LEFT ("SMOL" in Hebrew) hand (where the heart=love is) equals 11; RIGHT ("IAMIN" in Hebrew) hand (where right=truth is) equals also 11. By the way in regular numerology, divine love symbolized by JESUS=11 too.

It is known in Kabbalah that there are 10 higher emanations (10 emanations of love=10 fingers=10 openings in the body=10 luminous emanations Luminous emanation number 10 is where we are in touch with GOD within and everywhere and the REAL AKASHIC RECORDS. And there are 10 lower emanations (10 hatred emanations=10 toes=10 dark emanations.)

11 means at least 1 point of light even if the other 10 are dark.
And that point of light brings light into darkness.

Therefore, LOVE and TRUTH are the right and the left hand of the same body and bring LIGHT.

I'm a lover, not a hater. Therefore, a bearer of truth and light: Sherrie Lea Laird IS the linear and only reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe.

I feel sorry for haters, not lovers. May GOD of TRUTH bless them with LOVE.

Adrian



SHERRIE AND EVERYONE,

LOVE,

Adrian (Interesting: Adrian=Marilyn=11=47 of my posts [4+7=11])












#352 Yesterday, 05:32 PM
oil painter
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Hey Adrian, My destiny number is 11. My birthdate is 10-15-1957 and added up equals 11. Jesus, huh? I am in good company then. I am not a hater. The truth is threatening to you, that is all. Your actions speak louder than anything else. It isn't the "act" of writing your book and proclaiming it a love gift to the world, it is your "intent". If healing was truly your intent, Sherrie would be healed and it would have been done in private.
You have previously posted that Sherrie is 100% accurate yet the last couple of rambling posts she has admitted mistakes. You have to stick to your "story" because the gossip and innuendo in your book is simply fiction without Sherrie being 100% MM. I am not expecting you to agree.
You have too many self serving issues riding on Sherrie being MM. Like you, I am tired. This subject is going nowhere and I am learning nothing. I believe Sherrie is a member of MM's oversoul, soul family, whatever you want to call it and she has access to some information because of her connection. I do not accept she was actually MM. I am only one person so you have nothing to fear. I am 99.99% sure that is the truth. See? Unlike you, I leave some wiggle room. Peace Adrian. Make a million dollars off your book. It still won't be the TRUTH.

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#353 Yesterday, 06:04 PM
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Do I read jealousy, envy, narcissistic contempt and hatred in your post?
Come on, you can do better!






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#354 Yesterday, 11:08 PM
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Stuck







Thank you for your welcome, Oil Painter!


Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
I'm pretty sure past lives are illusions. As for reincarnation, I choose to work with it, because of its healing benefits. I do not have to be limited by belief systems. I do not require other people to believe in things. I do not require people to open their third eyes. I'm presenting alternative information that may or may not be correct and I also mention certain processes that enable us to work with higher objective truth. The Akashic Records are there and can be read by everyone. If we want to cling to any subjectivity, they cannot be read accurately.

I believe there are many ways to interpret the data from the Sherrie/Marilyn case.



Brianstalin,

The questions were to be answered, in utmost sincerity, to one's own self, in order to break down some of the present limitations and create access to buried inner knowledge. The discussion continues to be stuck in a stage where the two sides are insisting on their points rather rigidly, giving the impression they are trying to make the others accept their viewpoint as truth.


Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
I do not have to be limited by belief systems. I do not require other people to believe in things. I do not require people to open their third eyes.



Why the defense mode?


Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
The Akashic Records are there and can be read by everyone. If we want to cling to any subjectivity, they cannot be read accurately.



The Akashic Records can be read only by those who have cleared themselves enough from attachments, identifications, beliefs etc. Objectivity is possible only in God-mode, which renders the whole thing unusable by a "self"; whenever there is a "self" reading them, there is subjectivity and interpretation.

Subjectivity is a result of not being able to detach from one's beliefs and identifications; the biggest problem, however, present the denial we are clinging to beliefs and the hidden-from-oneself beliefs, the ones we are not consciously aware of clinging to (and, of course, the fear of encountering our dark side). Considering a wide variety of beliefs (in other words, trying to be more open-minded) can help us locate and become free from such hidden ones which have become transparent to us. We can also observe our communications with the others to get clues about the areas we need to work on.

Best wishes,
Tomina
















#355 Today, 12:21 AM
osiris
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherrie Lea Laird
"The Brutal Reality, as I see it, and as it has been from the very beginning.
This is the type of controversy which sells books."

I hate to pick on you the most Osiris. Not only do I not care about our 7.99 to 20.00 book that the publisher 85 or more percent owns.

But knowledge is like opening a window for a breath of fresh air.
How can that be wrong. We are not on Oprah with a book full of Lies.
that SHE rampantly added to her fav list and shoved down her herd of sheep audience.

It's crap that you or anyone would focus on that in a REINCARNATION FORUM

HELLO.. REincarnation anyone
__________________




That's OK, Sherrie!
Pick on me all ya want! I am honored!
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#356 Today, 01:42 AM
janus212
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To be one’s brother’s keeper











PLEASE




Remember we are all in the same boat.

The ship back to where we came from.
...and in the end all we will be experienced captain
..having sailed many seas.
...in storms and sunshine...

PLEASE

No need to pick on ones brother...or sister.

We all should rather shout
oh...hoooo...
to the ones on the boats close by
...trying to do as best as they can
..to become good captains on their own ship.

Peace be with you.

In love
and in the Joy of the new-born CHRIST...waiting to be born in us all.

Jan Egil.






#357 Today, 01:52 AM
brianstalin
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President James Buchanan




Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomina
The Akashic Records can be read only by those who have cleared themselves enough from attachments, identifications, beliefs etc. Objectivity is possible only in God-mode, which renders the whole thing unusable by a "self"; whenever there is a "self" reading them, there is subjectivity and interpretation.

Subjectivity is a result of not being able to detach from one's beliefs and identifications; the biggest problem, however, present the denial we are clinging to beliefs and the hidden-from-oneself beliefs, the ones we are not consciously aware of clinging to (and, of course, the fear of encountering our dark side). Considering a wide variety of beliefs (in other words, trying to be more open-minded) can help us locate and become free from such hidden ones which have become transparent to us. We can also observe our communications with the others to get clues about the areas we need to work on.

Best wishes,
Tomina






Can Adrian tell us who President James Buchanan is now using his methods?
Do I have to wait 8 years for an answer?
I double-check my readings with people who use the Akashic Records on a daily basis.

I don't require people to believe me. I encourage them to read the Akashic Records for themselves. In fact, I can teach people to do this. If Adrian is well acquainted with the Akashic Records he should be able to answer my question instantly.

I also extend this challenge to you Tomina, so you can demonstrate that you know what you are talking about.
















#358 Today, 01:59 AM
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Claims













Quote:
Originally Posted by janus212



No need to pick on ones brother...or sister.





We all agree that Sherrie is part of MM's soul group. Adrian refuses to consider other possibilities. Didn't hypnosis and astrology confirm Szuszanna's claims? Sherrie seems threatened by this.

Explain why Sherrie's claims are superior to Szuszanna's.
















#359 Today, 03:11 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 38





nobodys threatened by this, would you like to be compared to a fake brianstalin. No I don't think so, one person is telling fibs and the other has legitimately suffered. I come here really only to take my mind of my mum, being a musician I'm extremely isolated at the moment as we are having to get things done, yet I'm accomplishing nothing.

Brian, I ask you only to get real!!
Susanna suddenly said these things and regressed for 10 mins. I mean I'm only human, and under duress and only on snapping point cause I've heard this lame b.s (the other bs) for 3 years now.

What's the matter with the people that are this crackers for MM.
for instance if I handed you a gold plated coin and sold it as gold would you just be like, oh well, they're the same, no probs.

You think it gets to me, but I'm actually just grossed out and saddened by the crowd who believes it. Nobody believes me, yet out she pops with a bunch of crap and everybody's like, and there she is. it's just weird how people will defend frauds and hark on the possible real deal. It's like they want so much to destory purety, yeah, I said pure, cause there's nothing fake or superimposed on how much I've sacrificed for this useless, thankless connection to a past life. I mean if you are so unbiased and so meditative and untainted, why do you justify her edited pics over hard core facts. you don't think that's a little interesting, frightened, irritated, nervous, confused, I mean I'm wracking my tiny little grieving brain on the correct word to describe the way you act on this topic.
Anyway where is Susanna, who writes to my Doc about this and is so annoyed by me, yet is off making money off M. I mean all we heard day and night from the haters was how blashphemous anyone who did that was.


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#360 Today, 03:25 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
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8 years for an answer, is that to compare us.

Well 8 years happened cause unlike other impersonators
I vanished as since I've had this since I was 5 and asked 31 years later to have it removed, I had to get it talked into to come forward.

Now that's a long ass time, no?

8 years? it's lucky it happened at all. Look what I've left behind for the next 400 years of study. Doc is like Galileo and others who got screamed at and books burned about the theories of this and that. and will be heralded like all forerunners, and apologized to, too. That's just the way it goes for the daring

P.s is reading Akashic records they way I seen in advance to the very day as I had dec 6 in my mind, and she went in to hosp then and was gone by dec 10th, cause if so, I strongly encourage nobody to do this.


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#361 Today, 03:39 AM
brianstalin
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Szuszanna




Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherrie Lea Laird

This is not Marilyn, nor has she ever regressed I can promise my last dying breath on that.








Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherrie Lea Laird
Susanna suddenly said these things and regressed for 10 mins.



Such discrepancies do nothing for your own credibility.


Surely the fact that Szuszanna was regressed for a mere 10 minutes adds more credibility to her claims. No digging around for hours. No pain etc.

Ask Adrian if he knows who James Buchanan is. It's time for Adrian to demonstrate his broad knowledge of past lives. Has he just presented us with a distorted and convenient glimpse of the Akashic Records?







#362 Today, 03:45 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 771




Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherrie Lea Laird
nobodys threatened by this, would you like to be compared to a fake brianstalin. No I don't think so, one person is telling fibs and the other has legitimately suffered. I come here really only to take my mind of my mum, being a musician I'm extremely isolated at the moment as we are having to get things done, yet I'm accomplishing nothing.

Brian, I ask you only to get real!!
Susanna suddenly said these things and regressed for 10 mins. I mean I'm only human, and under duress and only on snapping point cause I've heard this lame b.s (the other bs) for 3 years now.

What's the matter with the people that are this crackers for MM.
for instance if I handed you a gold plated coin and sold it as gold would you just be like, oh well, they're the same, no probs.

You think it gets to me, but I'm actually just grossed out and saddened by the crowd who believes it. Nobody believes me, yet out she pops with a bunch of crap and everybody's like, and there she is. it's just weird how people will defend frauds and hark on the possible real deal. It's like they want so much to destory purety, yeah, I said pure, cause there's nothing fake or superimposed on how much I've sacrificed for this useless, thankless connection to a past life. I mean if you are so unbiased and so meditative and untainted, why do you justify her edited pics over hard core facts. you don't think that's a little interesting, frightened, irritated, nervous, confused, I mean I'm wracking my tiny little grieving brain on the correct word to describe the way you act on this topic.
Anyway where is Susanna, who writes to my Doc about this and is so annoyed by me, yet is off making money off M. I mean all we heard day and night from the haters was how blashphemous anyone who did that was.


















Is this picture of Zsuzsanna edited? I don't think so.

Do you look more like the Marilyn before her plastic surgeries or after?









#363 Today, 03:49 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 45









dear OPP, I mean OP. I did get bathroom breaks, the questions during the second year of intense 4 day regressions were created by a group of others, unbiased. Doc and I live miles apart, he had to come to me as I don't like to fly, in all cases so far 1 only or 2 sessions is more than enough to verify as during hypnosis you will learn in the first 5 minutes WHO you were in a past life, as it's PHYSICALLY impossible to lie. NOT POSSIBLE.
or then you are not under and can't maintain anyway, body language gives it away.

So we did the 50 hours + for the world's benefit. I got my confirmation immediately, and still didn't believe it, even when my mouth would answer things when I thought to myself I refuse to say another word.

So no he wasn't a drill sargeant for himself but for the body of work, and guess what, as we all die, the body of work is for the world, for you for me for your family. It's tuff to conceive of such a possibility to be that kind and that open minded I know, if you are not that yourself.

you can't quite picture that someone's actuall 30+ year body of work could be filled with passion, integrity, and a search for the truth, especially if you are actually afraid of the truth.
How come you even hang around a reincarnation forum anyway.
I suspect many of you are actually here for a giggle and attempts to fakely be a devil's advocate and/or just to blab away nothingness with no conviction one way or the other, you believe in reincarnation, just not Marilyn's, or just not me as her. I just imagined anyone who like ,I, believe in reincarnations possibilty would be a little more fair, or a little more open.

I heard of this girl who is possibily the reincarnation of Jim Morrison, hard to believe yeah, if you are a brick wall, but just on the fact alone that she looked exactly like him and sounded like him, had the same type poetry it was worth considering....sheez. it all gets so incredibily boring, and what's worse is, this behaviour is predictable.

I mean how do you know I'm not manipulating the situation to bring you all out of your shells with the things I say. It's not like I don't know the response beforehand (3 years of verbatim the same frightened responses), even right down to the 'threatened by susanna one' predicted it. Shall I attach a letter I or my sister in law thru me wrote.
hell I heard her freaking out ages ago, and never ever took it too heart other than to feel quite sorry for her. That's part of learning with reincarnation.. COMPASSION is quite big when you come back
















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#364 Today, 03:56 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 45






If 10 minutes were enough in anything then most women wouldn't be complaining about their husbands. You can't really believe that.
So 100's of years of experts on regression therapies, don't need to release the troubles in order to prevent repeat mistakes. So a woman who was consumed by pills and jilting lovers, needs only look at 10 mins of happiness. Rather strange, since Marilyn only had about 10 mins of happiness.

P.S I can guarantee you a blind on blind test that


http://sherrielealaird1.tripod.com/...roereincarnated








at 12 looks more like Norma Jeane than that one pic you've shown here.
but, OK , NOW you've got me convinced that you have vested interest with this working impersonator, Let me guess, you are the one that told her first.

Hey man, I didn't even think of it, Ahtun brought it up and by some fluke he was right.

I've had every journalist around the world be blown away by that page.
too many confirmations by opinions that count

P.s


a Christmas card of Susanna from Susanna and I, sibiling rivalry without the rivalry
She does Marilyn, I do music and care for animals and all others, however since I've said so many times, unheard before, I'll say it again, Susie really is welcome to it. I mean it is her not I that should be going thru the 3rd, as she wants to be Marilyn and I don't. However that doesn't stop me defending the work that was done by THE, leading world expert.

bored in T.O
My band is rehearsing in the living room and I've shut myself in the room, very down today and watching a parade of tv shows.
Sorry if I'm entertaining myself with our conversations, I'm sure you understand the situation why I'm not singing at the moment.







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#364 Today, 03:56 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 45






If 10 minutes were enough in anything then most women wouldn't be complaining about their husbands. You can't really believe that.
So 100's of years of experts on regression therapies, don't need to release the troubles in order to prevent repeat mistakes. So a woman who was consumed by pills and jilting lovers, needs only look at 10 mins of happiness. Rather strange, since Marilyn only had about 10 mins of happiness.

P.S I can guarantee you a blind on blind test that


http://sherrielealaird1.tripod.com/...roereincarnated

at 12 looks more like Norma Jeane than that one pic you've shown here.
but, OK , NOW you've got me convinced that you have vested interest with this working impersonator, Let me guess, you are the one that told her first.

Hey man, I didn't even think of it, Ahtun brought it up and by some fluke he was right.

I've had every journalist around the world be blown away by that page.
too many confirmations by opinions that count

P.s


a Christmas card of Susanna from Susanna and I, sibiling rivalry without the rivalry
She does Marilyn, I do music and care for animals and all others, however since I've said so many times, unheard before, I'll say it again, Susie really is welcome to it. I mean it is her not I that should be going thru the 3rd, as she wants to be Marilyn and I don't. However that doesn't stop me defending the work that was done by THE, leading world expert.

bored in T.O
My band is rehearsing in the living room and I've shut myself in the room, very down today and watching a parade of tv shows.
Sorry if I'm entertaining myself with our conversations, I'm sure you understand the situation why I'm not singing at the moment.





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#365 Today, 04:06 AM
pastlifetherapy
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
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Contradictions









Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
We all agree that Sherrie is part of MM's soul group. Adrian refuses to consider other possibilities. Didn't hypnosis and astrology confirm Szuszanna's claims? Sherrie seems threatened by this.

Explain why Sherrie's claims are superior to Szuszanna's.



I'm very disappointed, that you Brian, didn't even bother to read our book, Sherrie's and mine: "Marilyn Monroe Returns: The Healing of a Soul," and decided that Sherrie's and Szuszanna's cases present equal proofs to be the reincarnation of MM. Also you contradict yourself, and I'm used to it, as you've done it many times, when you say in other posts that Sherrie is the daughter of a Russian personality, who in turn was the one who reincarnated as MM. As they say: "He changed his mind, but the changed mind was not any better." Or "He often contradicts himself and he is right."

My intent is not to prove my prowess as a psychic, but to assist in healing souls. I've been a healer in many lifetimes, this is my mission.
If the psychic plays a role in the healing process, so be it. And using my method, I was also psychically correct in thousands of cases. Besides, invoking my psychic in the process is secondary. I invoke my client's psychic which is more accurate, as she feels better than me if her name is Marilyn or Susan or Brianstalin. During hypnosis the client's psychic becomes 4-5 times stronger, as it was proved in parapsychological studies conducted at UCLA.













#366 Today, 04:08 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 771




Eager To Please




Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherrie Lea Laird

Hey man, I didn't even think of it, Ahtun brought it up and by some fluke he was right.




Ahtun is an entity that seems eager to please. His readings rarely bring discomfort. He just tells others what they would like to hear and can easily identify with. Discomfort is a healthy prod to get us to change and progress.


We don't always want to see and hear the untarnished truth under hypnosis.
Do screen memories cause the pain or does the pain create the screen memories?













#367 Today, 04:14 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 771






Contradiction







Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
Also you contradict yourself, and I'm used to it, as you've done it many times, when you say in other posts that Sherrie is the daughter of a Russian personality, who in turn was the one who reincarnated as MM. As they say: "He changed his mind, but the changed mind was not any better." Or "He often contradicts himself and he is right."







Read my posts carefully. I have not contradicted myself regarding my past life readings. The information is very specific and there is no room for interpretation.

The information can be tested by anyone who has the necessary skills.

Do you admit that you cannot tell us about President James Buchanan? Do you admit that your vision is limited?













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#368 Today, 04:23 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 45





Dear Brian who was Ahtun trying to please.
Walter didn't even know a thing about me when he was contacted by me as he was the only other name besides Ian Stevenson to pop up, and he can verify this and so can I by email.

after regressing for the first 5 days, in 2004
I reached out cause this kind of sudden overload of info will do that to you, and connected with the second person ever in my history of pursuing this. (until then only Dr. F) whom was Walter Semkiw, it was a small email to which he wrote send me a picture, he then confirmed that I was the linear reincarnation of Mar... a year after all our regressions he then said, She looks and is even more like Norma Jeane, to which I was rather grossed out by. I suspect M feels much the same way about NJ that I do, Not impressed. So when for the book I was told to grab a few pics if I could. I scanned them, THEN I and everyone around me were in shock!!!

So how can he please someone who hasn't asked anything of him.

Boy you are just loaded with all the right factual events.

Ahtun Re, psychic to the stars including Angelina and Brad, has nothing better to do than oblige my worst nightmare, Yet Superimposed is the way to go these days. Typical really, everything these days has got to sh*t and everyone knows customer service has gone out the window. Oh yes except. Ahtun Kevin Ryerson. He's ever eager to please...exactly
puhhhhleease













#369 Today, 04:25 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 771



Psychic Power







Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
I invoke my client's psychic which is more accurate, as she feels better than me if her name is Marilyn or Susan or Brianstalin. During hypnosis the client's psychic becomes 4-5 times stronger, as it was proved in parapsychological studies conducted at UCLA.






I have shared my own experiences of hypnosis. The information I got under hypnosis proved to be incorrect. I don't care how many times stronger our psychic becomes under hypnosis. Perhaps all that extra psychic power is used to create the vivid screen memories.












#370 Today, 04:27 AM
bloom
Member Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 37





Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
Yes, I do. My own experience with hypnosis has given me cause to doubt its ability to help us see things without our subconscious minds inserting screen memories. My pendulum teacher seemed to think that hypnosis isn't very reliable for checking the past life information that we can obtain using more objective methods.

We all have blockages and Reiki is very effective for removing congested energy. Without congested energy in our chakra systems, we see things more clearly.

Trance channeling leaves us relying on the abilities of the channeled entity. Entities, just like people, can be biased and prone to mistakes.





Please, define the universe of your experience, yours and yours alone, or does it include the experience of your clients?

bloom














#371 Today, 04:28 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 45












no no, you have contradicted yourself, I noticed it too, when I first joined and you were talking to Janus etc. but I never even judged you on it or cared.
when you said Sher and K had reincarnated, mother and daughter stuff and that I was Marilyns daughter, then I was linked but you didn't know how, then Gladys is Kezia but I'm not Marilyn and a whole bunch of other Russian stuff, which by the way, I agreed with the Russian connection as surely it couldn't only be Natasha that I had loved the russian accent from and tried to name Kezia a Russian name, and did. Unknowingly as there are so many names to pick from













#372 Today, 04:28 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 774






Faith



Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
I invoke my client's psychic which is more accurate, as she feels better than me if her name is Marilyn or Susan or Brianstalin. During hypnosis the client's psychic becomes 4-5 times stronger, as it was proved in parapsychological studies conducted at UCLA.



We shouldn't accept anything on faith. Information from channeled entities must be tested as well.













#373 Today, 04:30 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 45






This is not Marilyn, nor has she ever regressed I can promise my last dying breath on that."

I stand by that. Absolutely, 10 mins isn't even enough to get under and back out, besides she said she was going to, and I'm sure under a lie detector you would see she didn't
She has not regressed to this date, for real. I'm sure of it, with my last gasp of invisible carbon
















#374 Today, 04:36 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 45






agreed on the entity thing,
however I'd already spent 30 years flashing back, firstly then regressed for over 1 1/2 years knowing by now, confirmed by Ahtun and 4 other psychics including the most famous in Israel....and then low and behold to the naked eye NJ and younger Sher did look the same....besides anyway this conversation goes nowhere really however I did want to thank you for validating Kezia, as that meant the world to me and you helped put it on the most famous celebrity to go to bat for the cause of reincarnation's site, for all to see, and since youth are the future and my beautiful Kezia is the next generation, that's far more important than us old broads, Susanna and I, I mean, can we really hold on to our ruby red lips and blow up dresses for ever, Shouldn't us girls set an example and do more, achieve more. What will she do with her site in 10 years. Mar never wanted to stand for that. She died young on purpose.
















#375 Today, 04:37 AM
pastlifetherapy
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 50




Healing vow



Quote:
Originally Posted by brianstalin
Read my posts carefully. I have not contradicted myself regarding my past life readings. The information is very specific and there is no room for interpretation.

The information can be tested by anyone who has the necessary skills.

Do you admit that you cannot tell us about President James Buchanan? Do you admit that your vision is limited?


Brian, it seems, you hear only yourself. I explained in my previous post that my mission is one of healing, saving lives, and not to give a show of my mental or psychic prowess to an audience. I am bound by such a vow in my healing ministry--my mission, day in and day out. The proof is in the pudding. I prove my authenticity and integrity through being GOD's conduit to healing souls. I've done it so many times over lifetimes, and more than 30 years in this lifetime, and thank GOD, successfully. There is a wise saying in Sanskrit: "Baba nam, baba nam key valam, param pita baba key."
In English it translate: "If you give God full credit, victory is sure guarantee."
















#376 Today, 04:43 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
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gotta go. Love to all,
Hi Doc, missing you. Fabulous work you are doing.
Truly monumental for the world and every individual person's healing, if they allow it. Back later


#377 Today, 04:56 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 774









Maria Feodorovna





Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherrie Lea Laird
no no, you have contradicted yourself, I noticed it too, when I first joined and you were talking to Janus etc. but I never even judged you on it or cared.
when you said Sher and K had reincarnated, mother and daughter stuff and that I was Marilyns daughter, then I was linked but you didn't know how, then Gladys is Kezia but I'm not Marilyn and a whole bunch of other Russian stuff, which by the way, I agreed with the Russian connection as surely it couldn't only be Natasha that I had loved the russian accent from and tried to name Kezia a Russian name, and did. Unknowingly as there are so many names to pick from


There are no contradictions in my pastlife readings. It appears that Kezia, Zsuzsanna and yourself were the daughters of Maria Feodorovna.
Maria Feodorovna married Tsar Paul.

Maria Feodorovna (Sophie Marie Dorothea of Württemberg) became Marilyn Monroe and Tsar Paul became Robert Kennedy.

It seems that GRAND DUCHESS ALEXANDRA PAVLOVNA became Sherrie Lee Laird.

GRAND DUCHESS ELENA PAVLOVNA became Kezia.

Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna became Zsuzsanna.

GRAND DUCHESS ALEXANDRA PAVLOVNA, GRAND DUCHESS ELENA PAVLOVNA and Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna were all daughters of Maria Feodorovna.













#378 Today, 04:59 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
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Information











Quote:
Originally Posted by pastlifetherapy
Brian, it seems, you hear only yourself. I explained in my previous post that my mission is one of healing, saving lives, and not to give a show of my mental or psychic prowess to an audience. I am bound by such a vow in my healing ministry--my mission, day in and day out. The proof is in the pudding. I prove my authenticity and integrity through being GOD's conduit to healing souls. I've done it so many times over lifetimes, and more than 30 years in this lifetime, and thank GOD, successfully. There is a wise saying in Sanskrit: "Baba nam, baba nam key valam, param pita baba key."
In English it translate: "If you give God full credit, victory is sure guarantee."



We all have a responsibility to check the information properly before we embark on any missions.













#379 Today, 05:15 AM
bloom
Member Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 39





Quote:
Brianstalin: The fellow who guided my investigations into the Akashic Records used a pendulum for all of his past life work. (...)
He said hypnotism might work if we just went backwards one lifetime, but not beyond that.




Your guru acknowledges the possibilities of hypnotism if we went backwards one lifetime.


















#380 Today, 05:26 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
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Possibilities




He is a good friend. He is not my guru.

Yes, that's what he said. He thinks that there's a slight possiblity to get some useful information this way. He warned me that the information can be readily tainted by ourselves, the bias of the hypnotherapist and external forces.

If you have studied metaphysics thoroughly, you would understand what I mean.

This is why we must not take things on faith.


















#381 Today, 05:40 AM
bloom
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Posts: 42





You love so much to quote him often. It does sound like if he is your guru.



Quote:
Brianstalin: I feel confident that Sherrie is not the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe.
Common sense tells us that it's just too good to be true.



That gives you away!
















#382 Today, 05:42 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
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Connections







If past lives are an open book to us, we can heal ourselves and others very easily. We get to see all the connections and understand that we are all much closer than we appear to be on the surface.










#383 Today, 05:47 AM
brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
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Respect









Quote:
Originally Posted by bloom
You love so much to quote him often. It does sound like if he is your guru.


I respect anyone who can perform simple psychic tasks when asked to do so.

If the intention is for the highest good, we get a lot of assistance from the other side.











#384 Today, 06:26 AM
bloom
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Posts: 42

Is this your Marilyn Monroe?




Sofia Dorothea of Württemberg (Maria Feodorovna) (1759-1828)





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#385 Today, 08:51 AM

brianstalin
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Sophie Dorothea of Württemberg



Apparently Sophie Dorothea of Württemberg (1759-1828) reincarnated as Marilyn Monroe.











#386 Today, 09:02 AM
brianstalin
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Sophia Dorothea Augusta Luisa von Württemberg

Here's another comparison of Marilyn before plastic surgeries and Sophie Dorothea of Württemberg (Sophia Dorothea Augusta Luisa von Württemberg).








#387 Today, 09:08 AM

brianstalin
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 779



Family Resemblances









Perhaps as Zsuzsanna grows older she will resemble the middle-aged Sophie Dorothea of Württemberg.